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		<title>By: phototakeouter</title>
		<link>http://www.RexBlog.com/2009/07/13/19710/comment-page-1#comment-353624</link>
		<dc:creator>phototakeouter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 22:02:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another interesting, and probably very apt analogy to this comes from The Long Tail (Chris Anderson) regarding the early days of sales and rentals of movies on vhs:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;Recall the early attempts to sell movies at retail for $70-$80...&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another interesting, and probably very apt analogy to this comes from The Long Tail (Chris Anderson) regarding the early days of sales and rentals of movies on vhs:</p>
<p>&#8220;Recall the early attempts to sell movies at retail for $70-$80&#8230;&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: phototakeouter</title>
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		<dc:creator>phototakeouter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 18:02:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another interesting, and probably very apt analogy to this comes from The Long Tail (Chris Anderson) regarding the early days of sales and rentals of movies on vhs:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;Recall the early attempts to sell movies at retail for $70-$80...&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another interesting, and probably very apt analogy to this comes from The Long Tail (Chris Anderson) regarding the early days of sales and rentals of movies on vhs:</p>
<p>&#8220;Recall the early attempts to sell movies at retail for $70-$80&#8230;&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Digital edition price flexibility is not optional &#124; booksahead.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Digital edition price flexibility is not optional &#124; booksahead.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 22:31:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 2009       I&#8217;m not saying price e-books the same as paper or hardcover editions, but, in response to Rex Hammock, I do think publishers should be thinking in terms of the benefits of greater investment in the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Mitch Ratcliffe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mitch Ratcliffe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 22:30:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rex, I&#039;m not suggesting they are the same costs, just that the publishers shouldn&#039;t be looking at this solely in terms of how cheaply they can get an electronic version out. Better copy and enhanced reading experience will make a positive difference in the marketplace.

But, to make my point, let&#039;s take a hardcover as an example..... The paper and printing costs of a $24.95 hardcover are somewhere between $4.60 and $6.00. Except for huge bestsellers, at least a third of the copies produced at that cost will be returned, so the real cost per book because it is in paper and distributed through physical channels is close to $9.50 (including shipping costs both ways). If I sell the books at a 45 percent discount, I&#039;m making $13.72 per copy sold before any costs (incidentally, this is about what &lt;a href=&quot;http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Publishers-Fear-Amazon-Will-siliconalley-2531050605.html?x=0&amp;.v=1&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Amazon pays publishers for bestseller Kindle titles&lt;/a&gt; sold for $9.99). After accounting for returns and the cost of production, my top-line profit is roughly $4.22. I still haven&#039;t paid my G&amp;A, editors, author advances, or for marketing. I might spend less than $2,000 for marketing (there goes the profit from 500 copies sold) many of the titles on my frontlist.

Publishers run a very slim margin, on the first 10,000 copies of that hardcover, they will lose money. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601204&amp;sid=aWhjmdVFcC2Q&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Sanford S. Bernstein analysts estimate&lt;/a&gt; publishers earn only 26 cents per paper book sold and $2.15 per electronic copy sold. But that doesn&#039;t mean they&#039;d make money on the first 10,000 electronic copies of the same book because the cost structure is different. It&#039;s only when both books make it past their first season and become backlist titles or, if all the stars align, become runaway bestsellers, that I make money. It&#039;s the fact e-books can sit in an eternal backlist and be sold in dribs and drabs for years that make them truly economically magical.

Now, if I chose instead to produce the book as available in electronic format with substantial enhancements (a fully hyperlinked index and TOC, as well as a style sheets for multiple formats and screen geometries, for example), it might take a designer and editor an additional $5,000 to $10,000 to produce the electronic book for the &quot;major&quot; electronic platforms. 

For argument&#039;s sake, let&#039;s say I did spend $10,000 on the electronic designs. Compared to the cost of the first 10,000 hardcover books, it looks cheap, but unless I have real clout as a publisher or a proven bestselling author I am still getting only about half the revenue for e-books sold on Amazon. If I sell in other venues and formats, I have to spend some of my own money on marketing to get attention that Amazon delivers simply by being listed in front of so many potential buyers. The typical publisher, then, will probably see top-line revenue close to the $2.15 per copy sold in &quot;earnings&quot; identified by Bernstein&#039;s analysts.

In the end, I only get a margin that after I market my book and the sales channel &quot;dips their beaks&quot; comparable to the physical book top-line, so if I reduce my list price from $24.95 to $9.99, I make less per copy sold before any other costs. Therein lies the reason that open formats, self- and on-demand-publishing, and competing channels are critical to the evolution of publishing, because the price of selling digital stuff remains prohibitively high despite all the prevailing thinking that it is &quot;free.&quot;

In electronic copies, there are no returns. There probably ought to be, since a lot of books and magazines ship for Kindle with egregiously bad unproofed copy (why The Atlantic, which &lt;a href=&quot;http://booksahead.com/?p=563&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;I wrote about today&lt;/a&gt;, would not proof its Kindle edition, is beyond me). I get to keep more of my top-line profit as an electronic publisher, but it will still take sales of several tens of thousands of copies to break even on an e-book, particularly if I&#039;ve paid an advance to the writer.

This all supposes there is a reason for the publisher to participate in the process, that there is a good reason for authors to work with editors and marketers. That&#039;s a separate debate, one publishers need to recognize no one takes for granted anymore.

You&#039;ll have to forgive me for cross-posting this to my new blog, &lt;a href=&quot;http://bookshead.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;BooksAhead.com&lt;/a&gt;. I just started it a few weeks ago and am looking for link and reader love. Thanks, again, Rex, for the very smart posting that started this. -- Mitch</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rex, I&#8217;m not suggesting they are the same costs, just that the publishers shouldn&#8217;t be looking at this solely in terms of how cheaply they can get an electronic version out. Better copy and enhanced reading experience will make a positive difference in the marketplace.</p>
<p>But, to make my point, let&#8217;s take a hardcover as an example&#8230;.. The paper and printing costs of a $24.95 hardcover are somewhere between $4.60 and $6.00. Except for huge bestsellers, at least a third of the copies produced at that cost will be returned, so the real cost per book because it is in paper and distributed through physical channels is close to $9.50 (including shipping costs both ways). If I sell the books at a 45 percent discount, I&#8217;m making $13.72 per copy sold before any costs (incidentally, this is about what <a href="http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Publishers-Fear-Amazon-Will-siliconalley-2531050605.html?x=0&amp;.v=1" rel="nofollow">Amazon pays publishers for bestseller Kindle titles</a> sold for $9.99). After accounting for returns and the cost of production, my top-line profit is roughly $4.22. I still haven&#8217;t paid my G&amp;A, editors, author advances, or for marketing. I might spend less than $2,000 for marketing (there goes the profit from 500 copies sold) many of the titles on my frontlist.</p>
<p>Publishers run a very slim margin, on the first 10,000 copies of that hardcover, they will lose money. <a href="http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601204&amp;sid=aWhjmdVFcC2Q" rel="nofollow">Sanford S. Bernstein analysts estimate</a> publishers earn only 26 cents per paper book sold and $2.15 per electronic copy sold. But that doesn&#8217;t mean they&#8217;d make money on the first 10,000 electronic copies of the same book because the cost structure is different. It&#8217;s only when both books make it past their first season and become backlist titles or, if all the stars align, become runaway bestsellers, that I make money. It&#8217;s the fact e-books can sit in an eternal backlist and be sold in dribs and drabs for years that make them truly economically magical.</p>
<p>Now, if I chose instead to produce the book as available in electronic format with substantial enhancements (a fully hyperlinked index and TOC, as well as a style sheets for multiple formats and screen geometries, for example), it might take a designer and editor an additional $5,000 to $10,000 to produce the electronic book for the &#8220;major&#8221; electronic platforms. </p>
<p>For argument&#8217;s sake, let&#8217;s say I did spend $10,000 on the electronic designs. Compared to the cost of the first 10,000 hardcover books, it looks cheap, but unless I have real clout as a publisher or a proven bestselling author I am still getting only about half the revenue for e-books sold on Amazon. If I sell in other venues and formats, I have to spend some of my own money on marketing to get attention that Amazon delivers simply by being listed in front of so many potential buyers. The typical publisher, then, will probably see top-line revenue close to the $2.15 per copy sold in &#8220;earnings&#8221; identified by Bernstein&#8217;s analysts.</p>
<p>In the end, I only get a margin that after I market my book and the sales channel &#8220;dips their beaks&#8221; comparable to the physical book top-line, so if I reduce my list price from $24.95 to $9.99, I make less per copy sold before any other costs. Therein lies the reason that open formats, self- and on-demand-publishing, and competing channels are critical to the evolution of publishing, because the price of selling digital stuff remains prohibitively high despite all the prevailing thinking that it is &#8220;free.&#8221;</p>
<p>In electronic copies, there are no returns. There probably ought to be, since a lot of books and magazines ship for Kindle with egregiously bad unproofed copy (why The Atlantic, which <a href="http://booksahead.com/?p=563" rel="nofollow">I wrote about today</a>, would not proof its Kindle edition, is beyond me). I get to keep more of my top-line profit as an electronic publisher, but it will still take sales of several tens of thousands of copies to break even on an e-book, particularly if I&#8217;ve paid an advance to the writer.</p>
<p>This all supposes there is a reason for the publisher to participate in the process, that there is a good reason for authors to work with editors and marketers. That&#8217;s a separate debate, one publishers need to recognize no one takes for granted anymore.</p>
<p>You&#8217;ll have to forgive me for cross-posting this to my new blog, <a href="http://bookshead.com" rel="nofollow">BooksAhead.com</a>. I just started it a few weeks ago and am looking for link and reader love. Thanks, again, Rex, for the very smart posting that started this. &#8212; Mitch</p>
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		<title>By: Rex Hammock</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rex Hammock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 03:27:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Mitch. I appreciate your deep knowledge of this topic. However, I don&#039;t believe you can equate the investment necessary to improve the design of an e-book text with the costs outlined by Anand &amp; Olson. Again, I agree with you that design is critically important to the quality of a an e-book. I will say that, based solely on my personal experience with a Kindle for the past 18 months, that I&#039;ve been pleased with the readability of books I&#039;ve read on it. I especially appreciate the flexibility it gives me in increasing/decreasing the font size.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Mitch. I appreciate your deep knowledge of this topic. However, I don&#8217;t believe you can equate the investment necessary to improve the design of an e-book text with the costs outlined by Anand &#038; Olson. Again, I agree with you that design is critically important to the quality of a an e-book. I will say that, based solely on my personal experience with a Kindle for the past 18 months, that I&#8217;ve been pleased with the readability of books I&#8217;ve read on it. I especially appreciate the flexibility it gives me in increasing/decreasing the font size.</p>
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		<title>By: Mitch Ratcliffe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mitch Ratcliffe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 02:15:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rex -- I think you make an excellent point, there are savings, especially in eliminating returns by booksellers that Al mentioned. There are also new costs that many folks ignore because they think of digital publishing as &quot;free.&quot; Design is more important in an e-book than in paper books, because the document needs to conform to different screen geometries and display capabilities (color, greyscale, active, video, etc.) and, in order to provide the simplest features of comparable hypertext documents. The lack of investment in design (and editing) in e-books because they are an after-thought and &quot;free&quot; has resulted in lots of texts that, when compared to paper, are lacking. The most obvious shortcoming is the lack of ability to share a book by handing it to someone, but more important things are the lack of citability (locations in e-books are relative) and the failure of publishers to add hypertext links within the book, even to an index or TOC. 

I&#039;d rather see experiments in heavier investment in the product than just savings as the catalyst of e-publishing efforts. &lt;a href=&quot;http://booksahead.com/?p=561&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Here is something I wrote about this very question today&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rex &#8212; I think you make an excellent point, there are savings, especially in eliminating returns by booksellers that Al mentioned. There are also new costs that many folks ignore because they think of digital publishing as &#8220;free.&#8221; Design is more important in an e-book than in paper books, because the document needs to conform to different screen geometries and display capabilities (color, greyscale, active, video, etc.) and, in order to provide the simplest features of comparable hypertext documents. The lack of investment in design (and editing) in e-books because they are an after-thought and &#8220;free&#8221; has resulted in lots of texts that, when compared to paper, are lacking. The most obvious shortcoming is the lack of ability to share a book by handing it to someone, but more important things are the lack of citability (locations in e-books are relative) and the failure of publishers to add hypertext links within the book, even to an index or TOC. </p>
<p>I&#8217;d rather see experiments in heavier investment in the product than just savings as the catalyst of e-publishing efforts. <a href="http://booksahead.com/?p=561" rel="nofollow">Here is something I wrote about this very question today</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Rex Hammock</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rex Hammock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 16:17:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Al Kalar - One person&#039;s &#039;vanity&#039; work is another person&#039;s &#039;indie masterpiece.&#039; (my point: I&#039;m not a fan of the pejorative &#039;vanity&#039;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Al Kalar &#8211; One person&#8217;s &#8216;vanity&#8217; work is another person&#8217;s &#8216;indie masterpiece.&#8217; (my point: I&#8217;m not a fan of the pejorative &#8216;vanity&#8217;)</p>
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		<title>By: Al Kalar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Al Kalar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 14:37:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AKW Books is a traditional publisher with a non-traditional product: eBooks.

Your economic model is right on target! In addition, there are none of the dreaded &quot;returns&quot; that cost the paper publishers so much money.

As a result, in addition to keeping costs and prices down, we&#039;re also able to pay our authors GREATER royalties (both in percentage and actual dollars) than those who publish paper books.

With eBooks, the customer, the author, and the publisher &quot;win&quot;.  The downsides of eBooks are:

-It&#039;s hard to curl up with an eBook to read yourself to sleep.
-When your battery dies, you&#039;re done reading.
-Readers are still expensive, but you CAN read them on your computer. This will improve when the market reaches the &quot;tipping point&quot; (around 10% penetration).
-It&#039;s easier for no talent &quot;author wanna be&#039;s&quot; to publish poor quality &quot;vanity&quot; works (we don&#039;t do that).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AKW Books is a traditional publisher with a non-traditional product: eBooks.</p>
<p>Your economic model is right on target! In addition, there are none of the dreaded &#8220;returns&#8221; that cost the paper publishers so much money.</p>
<p>As a result, in addition to keeping costs and prices down, we&#8217;re also able to pay our authors GREATER royalties (both in percentage and actual dollars) than those who publish paper books.</p>
<p>With eBooks, the customer, the author, and the publisher &#8220;win&#8221;.  The downsides of eBooks are:</p>
<p>-It&#8217;s hard to curl up with an eBook to read yourself to sleep.<br />
-When your battery dies, you&#8217;re done reading.<br />
-Readers are still expensive, but you CAN read them on your computer. This will improve when the market reaches the &#8220;tipping point&#8221; (around 10% penetration).<br />
-It&#8217;s easier for no talent &#8220;author wanna be&#8217;s&#8221; to publish poor quality &#8220;vanity&#8221; works (we don&#8217;t do that).</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Pressman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaron Pressman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 11:28:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great link.</description>
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		<title>By: Web Media Daily &#8211; July 14, 2009</title>
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		<dc:creator>Web Media Daily &#8211; July 14, 2009</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 11:15:10 +0000</pubDate>
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