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	<title>Comments on: The coming demise of &#8216;social media&#8217; (the term, that is)</title>
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		<title>By: Daniel DiRico</title>
		<link>http://www.RexBlog.com/2009/08/19/19873/comment-page-1#comment-344212</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel DiRico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 00:53:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think I understand your angle and frustration with the term &#039;socialmedia&#039; but most of us would agree that no matter what you call it, there is definitely a shift in how people are now using the web.  I also agree that socialmedia falls under the umbrella of &quot;web 2.0&quot; with &quot;web 2.0&quot; being a larger set of advancements in the use of the web -- socialmedia being the core of that advancement.

To understand what I refer to when I say &quot;a shift in how people are using the web&quot; I highly recommend a brand new book called Socialnomics by Erik Qualman. 

Call it what ever you like, but the shift is real and it has significant implications for future society and business.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I understand your angle and frustration with the term &#8216;socialmedia&#8217; but most of us would agree that no matter what you call it, there is definitely a shift in how people are now using the web.  I also agree that socialmedia falls under the umbrella of &#8220;web 2.0&#8243; with &#8220;web 2.0&#8243; being a larger set of advancements in the use of the web &#8212; socialmedia being the core of that advancement.</p>
<p>To understand what I refer to when I say &#8220;a shift in how people are using the web&#8221; I highly recommend a brand new book called Socialnomics by Erik Qualman. </p>
<p>Call it what ever you like, but the shift is real and it has significant implications for future society and business.</p>
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		<title>By: Teresa</title>
		<link>http://www.RexBlog.com/2009/08/19/19873/comment-page-1#comment-344078</link>
		<dc:creator>Teresa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 19:38:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think people just need something to categorize &quot;social media&quot;. What else do you call it? I understand that Twitter is not &quot;social media&quot;, but a tool in the &quot;social media&quot; world. So what do you call this type of marketing or interaction, if not &quot;social media&quot;? I think the term will live on for a little while longer, but only until another term comes along for people to overuse. Then what? It&#039;s a vicious cycle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think people just need something to categorize &#8220;social media&#8221;. What else do you call it? I understand that Twitter is not &#8220;social media&#8221;, but a tool in the &#8220;social media&#8221; world. So what do you call this type of marketing or interaction, if not &#8220;social media&#8221;? I think the term will live on for a little while longer, but only until another term comes along for people to overuse. Then what? It&#8217;s a vicious cycle.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Baran</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Baran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 15:49:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Couldn&#039;t agree more regarding the term &quot;social media&quot;.  Terrific current, relevant, necessary article. 
RIP, social media

@uMCLE</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Couldn&#8217;t agree more regarding the term &#8220;social media&#8221;.  Terrific current, relevant, necessary article.<br />
RIP, social media</p>
<p>@uMCLE</p>
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		<title>By: Rex Hammock</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rex Hammock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 15:09:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jerry. I agree. As I said, we use &quot;social media marketing&quot; to describe aspects of the services we offer...and have no plans to drop that language any time soon. And I can&#039;t stress enough that my argument has nothing to do with what is taking place or how there are nuances of online interactions that make them different that off-line.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jerry. I agree. As I said, we use &#8220;social media marketing&#8221; to describe aspects of the services we offer&#8230;and have no plans to drop that language any time soon. And I can&#8217;t stress enough that my argument has nothing to do with what is taking place or how there are nuances of online interactions that make them different that off-line.</p>
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		<title>By: Jerry Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jerry Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 14:53:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting argument Rex. You make relevant points and labeling these platforms may have it&#039;s downfalls. However I am not sure that it is time to write off the term Social Media just yet. There seems to be a misunderstanding of the term &quot;social&quot; generally, and particularly in terms of online application of the term.

You make a great point about how social interactions add value to life generally, as well as to business connections. It seems to me that the nature of platforms like Twitter, FB et al means people can ignore generally accepted social conventions and basically punt out their message with no attempt to understand anyone else&#039;s point of view, concerns etc. This doesn&#039;t work in face to face interactions and is annoying and counterproductive online.

However, when done well, the social aspects of these platforms give us a reach and ability to re-connect or begin new relationships that cannot be done any other way. This is truly social and an appropriate use of the term.

I am also a little uncomfortable with the term since it has become generic as you say, and many of the platforms are now home to distinctly antisocial behaviors. However I find some people wasting energy and time truing to define these offerings with some other terms that are equally bad or worse: &quot;Emerging Media&quot; for example. What does that mean?

It&#039;s a great debate, thanks for raising it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting argument Rex. You make relevant points and labeling these platforms may have it&#8217;s downfalls. However I am not sure that it is time to write off the term Social Media just yet. There seems to be a misunderstanding of the term &#8220;social&#8221; generally, and particularly in terms of online application of the term.</p>
<p>You make a great point about how social interactions add value to life generally, as well as to business connections. It seems to me that the nature of platforms like Twitter, FB et al means people can ignore generally accepted social conventions and basically punt out their message with no attempt to understand anyone else&#8217;s point of view, concerns etc. This doesn&#8217;t work in face to face interactions and is annoying and counterproductive online.</p>
<p>However, when done well, the social aspects of these platforms give us a reach and ability to re-connect or begin new relationships that cannot be done any other way. This is truly social and an appropriate use of the term.</p>
<p>I am also a little uncomfortable with the term since it has become generic as you say, and many of the platforms are now home to distinctly antisocial behaviors. However I find some people wasting energy and time truing to define these offerings with some other terms that are equally bad or worse: &#8220;Emerging Media&#8221; for example. What does that mean?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a great debate, thanks for raising it.</p>
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		<title>By: Rex Hammock</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rex Hammock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 02:48:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aaron. I don&#039;t think we disagree. I think &quot;scale&quot; was a pretty feeble word in hindsight. What I really meant to say was, &quot;Oh, except online you get to transcend the limits of time and space have the ability to gather and foster highly fragmented or scattered like-minded folks with great speed.&quot;

My point is that &quot;technology&quot; enabled your group to come together. I (obviously) am about as gung-ho as anyone can be about that. It&#039;s what you &lt;i&gt;did&lt;/i&gt; with the tools, not the tools themselves that is the radical breakthrough.

My reaction is to three days of seeing the technology -- and not the people part -- being touted as key to &quot;social media.&quot;

P.S. One of Nashville&#039;s greatest hidden treasures are our growing network of greenways. Good luck on your efforts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aaron. I don&#8217;t think we disagree. I think &#8220;scale&#8221; was a pretty feeble word in hindsight. What I really meant to say was, &#8220;Oh, except online you get to transcend the limits of time and space have the ability to gather and foster highly fragmented or scattered like-minded folks with great speed.&#8221;</p>
<p>My point is that &#8220;technology&#8221; enabled your group to come together. I (obviously) am about as gung-ho as anyone can be about that. It&#8217;s what you <i>did</i> with the tools, not the tools themselves that is the radical breakthrough.</p>
<p>My reaction is to three days of seeing the technology &#8212; and not the people part &#8212; being touted as key to &#8220;social media.&#8221;</p>
<p>P.S. One of Nashville&#8217;s greatest hidden treasures are our growing network of greenways. Good luck on your efforts.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Pressman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaron Pressman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 02:35:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm, for the first time in a long while here, I&#039;m not sure I agree:

&gt;&gt;But if you take away the word “online,” social media is what 
&gt;&gt;people have done since the dawn of time: We are who we are. 
&gt;&gt;We express ourselves. We connect with others. There’s really 
&gt;&gt;nothing new or different about social media — oh, except 
&gt;&gt;that online, these things can scale to levels that have the 
&gt;&gt;tendency to crush the status quo maintained by those who refuse 
&gt;&gt;to adopt them.

Sure, people have always been &quot;social&quot; but their ability to interact and connect has changed over time and, I would argue, diminished in many aspects over the past century as families moved apart physically, entertainment and recreation became more screen-based and private and so on. I blogged once about the diaspora of modern life a while back. 

And so I don&#039;t think the only important nuance to online social media is its ability to scale. What about its ability to transcend the limits of time and space? What about its ability to gather and foster highly fragmented or scattered like-minded folks? What about the speed with which you can pop up into a whole connected movement now?

One quick example. Some one in my town recently discovered that the company that owns an unused, 8-mile rail corridor would be more than happy to abandon its claim and allow a bike path to be built. Within weeks, using Ning, we had a whole web site with an email list and postings and organization for a steering committee. Soon we&#039;ll be using it for fundraising too. Suddenly, we have a movement and we&#039;ve already recruited people from the other 2 towns involved and got the attention of the local press and so on (see http://baycolonyrailtrail.org/). That&#039;s social media and that&#039;s &quot;new&quot; and important...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm, for the first time in a long while here, I&#8217;m not sure I agree:</p>
<p>&gt;&gt;But if you take away the word “online,” social media is what<br />
&gt;&gt;people have done since the dawn of time: We are who we are.<br />
&gt;&gt;We express ourselves. We connect with others. There’s really<br />
&gt;&gt;nothing new or different about social media — oh, except<br />
&gt;&gt;that online, these things can scale to levels that have the<br />
&gt;&gt;tendency to crush the status quo maintained by those who refuse<br />
&gt;&gt;to adopt them.</p>
<p>Sure, people have always been &#8220;social&#8221; but their ability to interact and connect has changed over time and, I would argue, diminished in many aspects over the past century as families moved apart physically, entertainment and recreation became more screen-based and private and so on. I blogged once about the diaspora of modern life a while back. </p>
<p>And so I don&#8217;t think the only important nuance to online social media is its ability to scale. What about its ability to transcend the limits of time and space? What about its ability to gather and foster highly fragmented or scattered like-minded folks? What about the speed with which you can pop up into a whole connected movement now?</p>
<p>One quick example. Some one in my town recently discovered that the company that owns an unused, 8-mile rail corridor would be more than happy to abandon its claim and allow a bike path to be built. Within weeks, using Ning, we had a whole web site with an email list and postings and organization for a steering committee. Soon we&#8217;ll be using it for fundraising too. Suddenly, we have a movement and we&#8217;ve already recruited people from the other 2 towns involved and got the attention of the local press and so on (see <a href="http://baycolonyrailtrail.org/" rel="nofollow">http://baycolonyrailtrail.org/</a>). That&#8217;s social media and that&#8217;s &#8220;new&#8221; and important&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Erica</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 19:57:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rex, this is completely relevant to what I&#039;m discussing RIGHT NOW with clients looking to delve into social-web marketing. Thanks for being on top of what&#039;s happening now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rex, this is completely relevant to what I&#8217;m discussing RIGHT NOW with clients looking to delve into social-web marketing. Thanks for being on top of what&#8217;s happening now.</p>
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		<title>By: Rex Hammock</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rex Hammock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 18:11:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Tony. I&#039;m one of the people who use @hammockinc . We usually put a little tag at the end of those tweets:  ^@r or ^@SummerH  to designate who posted the tweet. I saw your comment on Twitter about our logo. Thanks. We&#039;ll work on that hammock for future events. ;  )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Tony. I&#8217;m one of the people who use @hammockinc . We usually put a little tag at the end of those tweets:  ^@r or ^@SummerH  to designate who posted the tweet. I saw your comment on Twitter about our logo. Thanks. We&#8217;ll work on that hammock for future events. ;  )</p>
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		<title>By: Karri Weels</title>
		<link>http://www.RexBlog.com/2009/08/19/19873/comment-page-1#comment-343957</link>
		<dc:creator>Karri Weels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 18:09:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Social media is not stuff. Social media is just you and me having a conversation — and then connecting in ways that are changing the world and every institution in it.&quot; - AMEN!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Social media is not stuff. Social media is just you and me having a conversation — and then connecting in ways that are changing the world and every institution in it.&#8221; &#8211; AMEN!</p>
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